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Yeah, I agree Mboddz. People are saying that prescription drugs are becoming the most common drugs used by teens, which is absolutely great because those will mess you up.

Weed is harmless. What I'm saying is that a dealer is going to have easier connections to harder drugs then if you were trying to find them on your own.

That's what I'm trying to say.

Desert Sleepy wrote:

Meatshield718 wrote:The more I look at marijuana, the more I see that it isn't a gateway drug in the sense that it makes you want other drugs, but that it allows you to have connections to hardcore drugs. Thus, more people try them.

It all makes sense to me now.

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/347187/DRUG-USAGE.jpg

Notice that Marijuana use dwarfs all the others, except for "psycotherapeutics" (pills, I'm guessing). Meaning evidently plenty of people use weed without moving on to harder stuff.

I'd be a lot more concerned about the high number of people abusing prescription drugs, which are far more dangerous than marijuana could ever hope to be.

The high number of people using marijuana isn't even worrying. I'm more worried about the much higher use of alcohol. I've never seen someone high on marijuana cause problems. Drunks on the other hand cause trouble and get people killed daily. Alcohol makes people violent, marijuana doesn't.

It should be noted that I've never smoked or drank, and never will. I don't have anything against pot-smokers. I've heard countless arguments about how marijuana isn't addictive, but I don't buy it at all. A pothead I know has borrowed lots of money just for the sake of buying weed. I've never borrowed money to buy chocolate, and nobody I know ever has, so I assume weed is more addictive than chocolate. I don't need that, to know that there's something awesome out there that I could waste my money on. I already have plenty of other awesome things to waste my money on, and many of them aren't as expensive as weed.

As for alcohol, every single alcoholic drink I've ever tasted has tasted awful. And everyone says it tastes awful, that it's an "acquired taste", like smoking. Meaning you keep putting yourself through the awful taste over and over until it isn't so shitty, just so you can fit in with your loud, annoying, drunken fuck-face friends. I can't stand alcohol, it seemingly makes everyone who drinks it turn into a tremendous jackass who doesn't pick up their mess and talks way too loud, way too often, and way too stupidly. Not to mention that they're ALWAYS "OK to drive", up until they crash into a goddamn tree and kill their passenger (true story, happened right in my neighborhood. I pass by the little monument to it every day when I ride my bike). Drinking creates annoying, violent trouble makers who kill thousands a year because of their unbelievable stupidity.

EDIT: I hope this post doesn't seem angry at any member, the last part was directed at just drunks in general.

Gambling & alcohol aren't addictive either, but people become addicted to them.

Its not the substance, its the person.

I mean, i drink from time to time (i actually like the taste of some beers and rums) and smoke weed from time to time, but im not addicted to it. I only do when i am in the mood and want to, not because i NEED to.

Desert Sleepy wrote:

Meatshield718 wrote:The more I look at marijuana, the more I see that it isn't a gateway drug in the sense that it makes you want other drugs, but that it allows you to have connections to hardcore drugs. Thus, more people try them.

It all makes sense to me now.

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/347187/DRUG-USAGE.jpg

Notice that Marijuana use dwarfs all the others, except for "psycotherapeutics" (pills, I'm guessing). Meaning evidently plenty of people use weed without moving on to harder stuff.

You're misinterpreting the graph. Just because more people use weed than hardcore drugs doesn't mean people aren't moving on to hardcore drugs.

Other than that, I agree with the alcoholism stuff.

I personally feel it is the drug dealers fault and the persons fault for moving on to harder drugs. I have two examples. My cousin and my younger brother's girl friend.
My cousin Alex lives in a fairly... shall I say stunted, community. I don't mean to sound haughty however, the area he lives in is, undoubtedly, decrepit and dangerous. So, when he was first introduced to pot, he began to hang out with his drug dealer more. Alex was with this guy either to jump into a free party or to maybe score something for a cheaper price. His drug dealer is a nice guy however, he is also a drug dealer. By that I mean, every drug that people will pay for, he has. Next thing Alex knows, he is at a party, fucked up or just desperate to get high. His dealer is out of weed so he asks for a couple of tabs of E. Than the E turns into snorting E because, he wants to get high really fast before going to six flags. Then E becomes too weak. He isn't looking to get addicted, just really to have fun. Coke comes next. After coke, came a little bit of crack and finally he kept wanting more and more. His drug dealer had all of it. Alex became so desperate for more, he tried heroin. In his own words "After I had smoked for a while I just wanted more. I didn't think about coke or heroin, I just was desperate and figured it was a one time thing. After that, you want more, and more, and more. The worst is, he has all of it so I could get anything I wanted. Before you know it, fun turns into a habit, habit turns into addiction."
Alex is 16 and two years ago he never even picked up a bowl before.

tl;dr : Habit turned into addiction. He wanted more and his drug dealer had more. He is also fairly young.

If you compare Alex to Emma (my brother's girl friend) you notice the same trend. Wants more so takes more. Steals something for one night of fun turns into stealing something for a fix. Finally, she asks Alex to pick her up over $130 worth of coke and she hadn't even tried it yet. In a weird turn of events, Alex ends up saving her by spending the money on heroin.


What is my point?
The point is, addiction is not a "black and white" decision. From what I have seen with a fairly drug prominent school (but we have the highest HSPA scores in all of NJ) is, the younger the drug user, the more they crave. The easier the access, the easier someone gets addicted.
I addiction starts before you even take the drug. You crave something more and more until the point of blind obsession. You know those drugs are horrible for you but, you are so blinded by the fact that you need more it becomes disregarded.

So is pot a gateway drug? Yes and no. It is just as much of a gateway drug as coke, speed, meth, PCP, and any other drug is. However, will power and access become the deciding factors in whether or not a person becomes addicted. Generally speaking, a younger crowd will want the new, next best thing while the older crowd is fine with what they have. A person with money in the bank that they know about is much more likely to use it rather than a person who unknowingly has money in the bank.

http://news.yahoo.com/chicago-aldermen-back-marijuana-decriminalization-proposal-122432344.html

yay for common sense

That's still a $200 ticket though. XD

Kind of surprised they didn't do this earlier.

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Meatshield718 wrote:That's still a $200 ticket though. XD

Kind of surprised they didn't do this earlier.

Well what would you rather get, a $200 ticket (that the cop might not even give you) or get arrested?

Damn sleepy, you seem to have a pretty harsh view on alcohol. And don't worry I've grown up around alcoholics. Drinking and smoking are skills (for lack of a better term of course) that you become accustomed to. Being drunk is fun, but alcohol still tastes like rancid fermented ass

but yes alcoholism is a sickening problem (not aided by the fact we advertise it on a grand scale). however, when u stop tasting the alcohol you know you need to take a break and gauge yourself real quick

figured id post this here since it makes sense and didnt wanna make a new topic, so i sold my xbox to a bud i owed money to cuz he said hed clear my debt and give me some hash oil, as well as christmas money for gifts for the family, needless to say, the oil was fuckin dope, but i am now regretting selling my box of X. i will be off for a while until i decide to go out and buy a new xbox, probably after winters over and i cant have fun with my snowboard anymore. Merry Belated christmas UX

You can get a RROD'd one off Craigslist for like $50 bucks, then just towel it.

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